This is a great opportunity for archers to get together to discuss archery related topics. Check it out here:
http://www.uscollegiatearchery.org/forums/
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CAP Forums Now Open!
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Archive for November, 2008
USA CAP is looking for some input on a potential change in scoring. Personally, I think this is a great concept for the compound archers, and a bad one for recurve archers. Take a look at the document and decide for yourself.
Hit Or Miss Target
This target is the international standard for World University Archery for team round and mixed team round. The yellow is the size of the 9 and 10 ring, the red is the same size as the 1-8 ring. The target is 122 cm, which is the same size as the FITA faces at 90/70 and 70/60m. Any ‘hit’ in the yellow is 1 point. Any ‘miss’ in the red is 0 points. The total possible points are 24.
Read more here:
What Exactly is a “hit-or-miss” Team Round?
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It’s always hard to decide on where to spend your hard earned money when getting your little guy or gal a bow to shoot archery with. Your local archery shop doesn’t always carry a lot of youth equipment for you to examine and try out. If you don’t belong to a club where you can try out other member’s archery equipment, choices are getting short. This leaves just the matter of going by specs. But first, lets go over some of the foundational information on just exactly you need to be buying.
WHY A COMPOUND
I’ll assume that you know whether you’d like to purchase a compound, a traditional, or an Olympic recurve bow. I’ve even created a short quiz that might help you decide on whether a compound bow is right for you. Check that out first.
WHAT TO BUY
There are some things that are required, and other items that are optional, and other items that can be left for much later as the youth gets more serious about the sport of archery.
Here is a list of items that I would consider to be required:
(1) Bow – Obviously. Compound bows are purchased, riser and limbs as a combination deal.
(2) String – Unlike recurve bows, all bows will come with the string already installed on the bow
(3) Arrow rest – Will often come with a compound bow set.
(4) String nock – Some bows will come with this already on the string.
(6) Release loop – A string or metal loop attached to the string that your release attaches to
(5) Arrows – I’ll leave arrow selection for another article however.
Optional Equipment:
(6) Sight – Helps with the aiming of the bow and arrow.
(7) Release – Provides a more consistent release of the string during the shot than just using fingers. Can also spread out the pressure of the string across the hand, compared to fingers.
(8) String Wax – Helps maintain string integrity and extend the life of the string.
Bow equipment that can optionally wait until the youth knows they’ll stick with the sport of archery:
(9) Peep – A small circle tied into the sting that when aligned with the sight, provides greater accuracy of the shot. Please have an archery technician install this for you. It’s hard to do.
(10) Stabilizer – Helps steady the bow while aiming and shooting.
(11) Bow case – Compound bows are built tough. Not indestructible, so a bow case can help protect your investment.
(12) Bow stand – A mechanism that helps hold the bow while out in the field, whether practicing, in competition, or hunting.
(13) Bow Sling – A strap that goes around the riser and connects to the fingers or wrist. Keeps the bow from hopping out of your hand.
WHERE TO BUY
Let me pause here and plug your local archery shop technician. Compound bows often look like the archers are holding equipment from NASA. These technicians and bowyers can be invaluable in getting your equipment in shape and tuned for the individual archer. Please purchase locally when possible and all things being equal. I know I’m linking to Internet web sites, and they can be very helpful when you call in, but there’s nothing like having a good technician tune your bow for your child. If you are in the North Georgia area, I recommend TimberGhost, or you could check out our other archery shops listing.
You’ll see from the pricing that there is typically two ways that the bows are listed: plain and as a package. Make sure that you understand what is included in the package deal and what isn’t.
IMPORTANT FACTORS OF BOW COMPARISON
As far as youth goes, draw weight may be the most important. Many parents purchase “too much bow” for their child. Shoulder injuries are the most prevalent injury in archery. Attempting too much draw weight on a growing shoulder can lead to an injury. A compound bow’s draw weight can be adjusted by a twist of an allen wrench on the two limbs of the bow.
Another related factor of compound bows along with the draw weight is the “let off %”. What this means is what the “hold weight” of the bow will be. If you purchase a bow with a 40 pound draw weight, and a 75% let off, the hold weight will be 10 pounds.
Draw length is also very important. Young archers are growing rapidly so a wider range of draw lengths, will often lengthen the life that the bow will last with your child. There are several ways of measuring the draw length of an archer. I’ll leave this up to you to do the research and measurement of the draw length. Try to leave extra growing room for the bow that you’re looking to purchase.
RECOMMENDATIONS
Here’s the bottow line for you: Bear makes a great youth bow called Pioneer II and Odyssey II. The price is right too. Lots of settings to adjust the draw length, quality metal cams. High arrow speed (IBO Speed) for the draw weight. There’s a lot to like with these cousin set of bows. Recommended. I heard recently that Bear is discontinuing these bows and are releasing the Young Gun bow, however I haven’t seen pricing yet for this bow. There appears to be good draw length adjustment, so lets hope that the prices on these bows are reasonable.
Bear - Young Gun
The Matthews Genesis and Genesis Pro bows. These bows are great learning bows for families, although I don’t recommend these bows as a “Tournament Quality” bow. The first thing you’ll notice on the stats is that there is a 0% let off. This isn’t a typo. Along with a huge draw length range, these bows are unique in that they don’t have a specified draw length. What this means is that the bow has unique qualities to fit into a family of new archers: Father, mother, big sister and little brother. This one bow can fit the whole family and the whole family can practice and learn archery at the same time.
Good luck. If you have questions, contact someone from your archery club, or contact someone that will help you find the right bow for you or your child.
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“My son/daughter is interested in a bow, what should I buy?”
This question strikes fear into my heart. In a good way though, as I’m also excited that one of our archers are committing to the next step; bow ownership. This question is a bit like asking someone: “I like to drive, what kind of car should I buy?” The possibilities are daunting: SUV, sports car, station wagon? Mercedes, Honda, Ford? Now, imagine never being able to test drive the car before you purchase. That’s exactly what it’s like when someone wants to purchase an Olympic recurve bow.
If you’re not sure if you would like to purchase a Olympic recurve bow, a Traditional bow, or a compound bow, then hustle over to our “Quiz of 10 Questions” to help you decide what might be right for you.
I have never seen a shop in the United States that stocks Olympic recurve bows. I’m sure that they exist somewhere but I sure haven’t seen one. Therefore archers are left to make purchasing decisions based on recommendations of coaches, friends who have equipment, tiny pictures in catalogs, and scant recommendations in archery forums. I promise, absolutely promise, that my advice will be no better.
I’m assuming that this is your first bow, that you are budget conscience, and that you want good value for your money. If you have unlimited funds, you can go out and buy the very best. However, no amount of money will purchase a score at a tournament. Hard work, perseverance, and sweat equity will yield the best results of all.
With that in mind, lets talk about what you will need to purchase, followed by what are highly recommended items, and then optional equipment. Required equipment for Olympic recurve bows are the (1) Riser, (2) Limbs, (3) String, (4) Arrow Rest, (5) Plunger, (6) Nock, (7) Arrows. We’ll leave arrows to another article all on its own. Highly recommended items are (8) Finger tab, (9) Bow Stringer, (10) Arm guard, (11) Quiver, (12) String wax, (13) Bow case. Optional items include (14) Target Sight, (15) Stabilizer, (16) Chest Guard, (17) Clicker
I’ll include a really quick summary of what the items are but I think you’ll get the idea from the images that I’ve linked to.
(1)Riser – Is the thing you put your hand on and most everything attaches to. The riser is the foundation for the bow. I’m recommending one that you can grow with as you grow in height and strength.
(2)Limbs – These are the flexible boards that connect between the riser and string. These come in 2lb increments for Olympic recurve bows. You can change these out and keep the same riser and (often times) string as you get taller or stronger.
(3)String – Self explanitary but this is what flings the arrow when released.
(4)Arrow rest – A small ledge made of plastic or metal that holds the arrow in position, just off of the riser, and yet lets the arrow slide past the riser as it is shot.
(5)Plunger – A small device designed to help tune your bow so that the arrow, arrow rest, and string are all in concert with each other for maximum efficiency of the bow.
(6)Nock – Often times a small brass or plastic or even dental floss. The nock keeps the arrow from sliding up and down the center serving.
(7)Arrows – You know what these are
(8)Finger tab – This is a small device that fits in your hand and protects your fingers from the pressures of the string. A nice one may have a shelf that also helps with a tactile indicator of your anchor point.
(9)Bow Stringer – This helps you get the string onto the bow. Never leave a bow strung for an extended period of time.
(10)Arm guard – This is a “just in case” device. If you are out of your normal stance, or have bad form on a shot, it’s possible that the bow string will whap your forearm. Painful. This protects you from major harm in that circumstance. If Olympic archers wear one, you can too … and should.
(11) Quiver – A thing that holds arrows. I recommend hip quivers for Olympic archers. Traditional archers may opt for back quivers. Compound archers may have a bow quiver.
(12) String wax – This is wax meant to condition your strings and keep it in good shape.
(13) Bow case – A case that protects all of your equipment as you travel to all of these cool/fun archery tournaments.
(14) Target sight – A device that attaches to your riser allowing you to better sight in your shot.
(15) Stabilizer – A device that attaches to your riser moving the center of gravity of your bow lower and forward, giving the archer greater stability.
(16) Chest guard – A mesh or light weight fabric that straps over your chest and shoulder as a mechanism to keep clothing and other items from interfering with the bow string. Strongly recommended for the ladies. I’ll stop right there.
(17) Clicker – If you are really good, and you have stopped growing, and you have your arrows custom cut to your draw length, then a clicker may be for you. It gives an audible and tactile feeling when an archer has reached the exact draw length they’re looking for in a shot. To be honest, when you need this, you’ll know that you need it.
That’s it for my “dictionary” or “glossary” of terms. Three big questions remain before I get to the specifics of the equipment recommendations: (1) Should I get a 23” riser or a 25” riser? (2) What length bow (riser + limbs) should I get? and (3) What poundage of limbs should I purchase?
(1)23” or 25” riser? Check out some of the other references that I link to at the bottom of this article for more (better) information. I would say that the bottom line is, if your maximum height is going to be less than 5’9” or if the archer is very young (thus a long time before they reach their full height) then go with a 23” riser. If you are going to be 5’9” or taller, then go with a 25” riser. NOTE: The KAP T-Rex riser I’m about to recommend only comes in 23” lengths.
(2)Length bow? If you are 5’7” or shorter, go with a 64” bow. From 5’7” to 6’0”, go with a 66” bow. If you are taller than 6’0”, then go with a 68” bow. All heights mentioned are for your full height. Small children should probably stick with a 64” bow.
(3)What poundage of limbs? The limbs for the recommended bow is interchangeable. The #1 injury in archery is shoulder injuries. Do NOT buy too heavy of a limb. You can sell these limbs and purchase up later. This is a really hard question to answer. The archer should be able to hold the full draw length for 10 seconds comfortably. I would think that no child should have limbs over 30lbs. A 20lb limb is a good start. A 12 year old healthy boy might be able to start out at 24 to 26lbs. A 12 year old girl, perhaps a bit less than that.
Enough talk, lets get to actual recommendations. We, as a club are currently recommending two bows: the KAP T-Rex, and the Samick Candidate. To be perfectly honest, I’ve never held the Samick bow but the specifications seem comparable to the T-Rex.
KAP T-Rex Riser : $100
KAP T-Rex Limbs: $90
Magnetic arrow rest: $11
Cartel Super Plunger: $12
String: $8 (Lots of choices here.)
Noc: $0.40 each (buy a couple, just in case)
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Samick makes a comparably priced setup as the KAP above.
Samick Candidate Riser: $100
Samick Candidate Limbs: $100
Since both of these risers take the ILF limbs, you can put the T-Rex limbs on the Samick Riser and/or the Samick limbs on the T-Rex riser. That’s part of the reason that we recommend these risers is that they will grow with the child and offer options for different limbs.
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HIGHLY RECOMMENDED ADDITIONAL PURCHASES:
Finger Tab: $17
Bow Stringer: $10
Arm Guard: $9
Quiver: $25
String Wax: $7
Take-down bow case: $22
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OPTIONAL ADDITIONAL PURCHASES:
Target Sight: $80
Stabilizer: $60
Chest Guard: $30
Clicker: $15
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I recommend buying through the local shop such as Timber Ghost (Cumming, GA) or Mitch’s (Canton, GA). They’ll help with setup of the equipment.
I’ve done my best to get as much information into your hands as I possibly can, but I understand that buying sight unseen and out of a catalog or website can be daunting task. As always, turn to the experts from your local club to help you answer questions and help you make informed final decisions. Good luck.
For more information, check out some of these additional resources.
Archers reference, issue 5 (PDF format)
Choosing The Right Recurve Bow For You
Buying Your First Bow
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We have a great facility in Ducktown Park for use by the Forsyth County Archery Club. There’s been some great improvements to the park with more to come. Included below was an announcement from “The Current” which is a newsletter from Forsyth County.
Last month, we had the opportunity to officially dedicate a park that serves as an example of a true community effort. On October 16, Forsyth County dedicated Ducktown Park to the Ducktown Community Club, who very generously donated the park land to the county in 2005. How grateful we are for their generosity and how proud we were to erect a plaque in their honor at the park.
Since the park land was donated, some great additions and enhancements have been made, including a walking trail, playground and picnic pavilion. A sand volleyball court, horseshoe pit and new restroom facilities are still in the works. These exciting renovations to Ducktown Park have been made possible thanks to a grant from the National Parks Service.
This park is a great example of what can be accomplished when resources are combined for the betterment of the community. Ducktown Park is located at 5878 Heardsville Road in Cumming.
As always, thank you for the opportunity to serve you.
Sincerely,
Charles Laughinghouse, Chairman
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The Easton Sports Development Foundation (ESDF) has awarded the US College Archery Program a grant for the next three years to support the advancement of college archery across the country. The grant will benefit athletes throughout the program by way of scholarships, World University Team funding, regional and elite athlete training camps, and advanced coach training, just to name a few.
Read more here:
EDSF Awards Grant to CAP
Easton Sports Development Foundation
EASTON SPORTS DEVELOPMENT FOUNDATION PROVIDES USA ARCHERY WITH $307,000 IN GRANTS
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I’d like to thank everyone who worked so hard on our charity tournament. I truly believe that we did a whole lot of good by collecting canned goods for the Concord Baptist Food Pantry. I think we collected about 100lbs of food for the Food Pantry.
Thanksgiving Charity Tournament
The kids enjoyed the tournament atmosphere, shooting on targets, plus shooting on the 3D targets of two foam turkeys, two foam deer, and a wolverine. Sure it was a cold day, but that didn’t stop the smiles on the kids faces.
If you want to read an article that came out before the tournament from the Forsyth County News, click here:
Archery tournament to benefit food pantry
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It seems that Iran, like many countries such as the USA, have hired Korean trained coaches for their Olympic team. However, Iran will be hiring a native born coach to head their compound team.
“Since compound isn’t an Olympic event, many countries don’t invest in the sport, despite the fact that achieving success in the event is easier than recurve.” Said Karim Safaei, Iran’s Archery Federation president
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Foreigner likely to head Iran’s compound team
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The United States Junior World team consisted of twenty four archers 12 in the Junior division (ages 17-18), and 12 in the Cadet division (ages 15-16). Each age group is then broken into shooting style (recurve or compound) and gender, ending three archers per team.
Pearce was on the Compound Cadet Women’s team with 14-year-old Kailey Johnston from Georgia, and 16-year-old Tristan Scarvan from Wisconsin. Each team member competes individually and as part of the team.
“I was so excited when I made the team,” Pearce said. “I knew that it was going to be the experience of a lifetime, but it was so much more than I could have ever imagined.”
Read more here:
Pearce breaks world record, wins gold
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Annual Christmas
3D Archery Charity Tournament
December 7th
The Cumming Archery Association is proud to hold it’s annual Christmas event on Sunday, December 7th at the Etowah Valley Sporting Clays Park in Dawsonville, GA. This event supports various local charities throughout Forsyth and Dawson County including the local Farmers and Hunters Feeding the Hungry program.
100% of all monies raised through tournament registration and donations go to these charities.
With your donation, your business can be featured on our website and welcome to hand out or post literature at the event (with prior approval). As in past years, we will be actively pursuing media coverage.
We appreciate your support of this worthwhile effort that supports your community!
For further information, contact Joe Dumford at 770 174 0721 or visit our website for information and directions: www.cummingarcheryassn.org
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